Wikimedia Foundation Governance Wiki foundationwiki https://foundation.wikimedia.org/wiki/Home MediaWiki 1.39.0-wmf.23 first-letter Media Special Talk User User talk Wikimedia Wikimedia talk File File talk MediaWiki MediaWiki talk Template Template talk Help Help talk Category Category talk Resolution Resolution talk Legal Legal talk Minutes Minutes talk Policy Policy talk Archive Archive talk Campaign Campaign talk TimedText TimedText talk Module Module talk Translations Translations talk Gadget Gadget talk Gadget definition Gadget definition talk 1 31583 142336 142326 2022-08-11T17:26:10Z MMoss (WMF) 1065 /* Multilingual? (translation) */ Reply wikitext text/x-wiki == 90 days for partners? == "deleted, de-identified, or aggregated within 90 days" --> does this apply to data gathered by the platform as well? What is their retention policy? They will have the most identifiable data about participants and their interactions. [[user:sj|SJ]] [[user talk:sj|+]] 16:13, 25 July 2022 (UTC) : Hey [[user:sj|SJ]], the privacy terms of PheedLoop state that account information will be deleted when it is no longer necessary / upon request. Our Legal Department works with all partners to harmonize our data retention guidelines with theirs, so we will be initiating that request process to have the data deleted by 90 days. You can also request to delete your data and terminate your account with PheedLoop directly after Wikimania is over, using the contact information provided in their [https://pheedloop.com/more/privacy Privacy Policy]. --[[User:ELappen (WMF)|ELappen (WMF)]] ([[User talk:ELappen (WMF)|talk]]) 01:08, 26 July 2022 (UTC) :: Thank you kindly, Elana. I am not worried about my own data, but want people's expectations of privacy to match reality. As the number of third parties grows, it might be worth updating the privacy-policy docs. A standing practice to file requests to partners to delete the data of wikimedians by 90d seems like a big deal to me. [[Privacy_policy/Supplement|PP supplement]]: only lists Zendesk. [[user:sj|SJ]] [[user talk:sj|+]] 14:59, 26 July 2022 (UTC) == Multilingual? (translation) == why don't we push this page for translation? Non-native English speakers would benefit a lot IMHO. Cheers, <!-- -->-- [[User:Omotecho|Omotecho]] ([[User talk:Omotecho|talk]]) 03:21, 7 August 2022 (UTC) :@[[User:Omotecho|Omotecho]] -- Hi, I can answer this question! This page was created using a wiki template, so the content is mostly transcluded rather than translatable directly from this page. The template itself ''is'' being pushed for translation, but since it is still pretty new we were sadly not able to get this year's priority Wikimania languages uploaded in time for this statement. [[User:MMoss (WMF)|MMoss (WMF)]] ([[User talk:MMoss (WMF)|talk]]) 17:26, 11 August 2022 (UTC) == Terms & Conditions, PheedLoop (link bug) == @[[User:ELappen_(WMF)|Elana]] Hello, it is said at Wikimania_2022_Registration_Privacy_Statement: <quote>The event will take place on PheedLoop; please read their [https://pheedloop.com/more/privacy Privacy Policy] and [https://pheedloop.com/more/terms Terms of Service]. We put requirements in place to help ensure that these service providers protect and handle personal information with care.<unquote> However, on PheedLoop, I clicked on the Terms&Condiitons link, which falls back to WMF page (Wikimania_2022_Registration_Privacy_Statement), not theirs. Any bug? -- [[User:Omotecho|Omotecho]] ([[User talk:Omotecho|talk]]) 03:29, 7 August 2022 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Omotecho|Omotecho]], can you link us to the PheedLoop Terms & Conditions link which falls back to our privacy statement? Can't seem to find this mention. Both our privacy statement and the [https://pheedloop.com/more/privacy PheedLoop Privacy Policy] and [https://pheedloop.com/more/terms Terms of Service] are relevant. We can investigate why a PheedLoop "Terms & Conditions" link is linking back to us if you can help us track down this instance. --[[User:ELappen (WMF)|ELappen (WMF)]] ([[User talk:ELappen (WMF)|talk]]) 00:17, 9 August 2022 (UTC) ::Hello, I encountered the issue on iPhone6Plus, but can't recreate it anymore. ::I felt it's unconvenient that on [https://pheedloop.com/register/wikimania2022/attendee/? Attendee's page], links don't lead me to anywhere as: ::*Site Map | خريطة الموقع | 網站地圖 | Plan du site | Карта сайта | Mapa del sitio ::*Connect | الاتصال | 連結 | Connecter | Подключиться | Conectarse ::*Information | معلومات | 資訊 | Informations | Информация | Información. ::A side note. ::Now i have learnt that PheedLoop's "Terms of Use" and "Privacy Policy" are accessed on the Main Page, scrolling way down to the bottom of that page. ::* The mobile Main Page has a three bar menu button at the upper right of the screen, but aside from promotion, no [search] window: ::* as a Wikimedian, I use search window so often whenever to find something. (How lucky we are, I know now.) ::FYI, on mobile PheedLoop APP, Links are live for: ::* <nowiki>[https://</nowiki>pheedloop.com/wikimania2022/site/register/ Register | تسجيل | 登記 | S'inscrire | Зарегистрироваться | Registarse] ::* <nowiki>[[</nowiki>wmania:Wikimania|Website | موقع الكتروني | 網頁 | Site web | Веб-сайт | Sitio web]] ::* Twitter ::* Facebook ::* Instagram ::* @wikimania&hashtags=Wikimania2022 Wikimania2022 ::* wikimania@wikimedia.org ::Thank you very much supporting the community members, with such a swift response. Great to feel I am learning. Cheers, -- [[User:Omotecho|Omotecho]] ([[User talk:Omotecho|talk]]) 04:22, 9 August 2022 (UTC) 6w954su7y4vz116v3donvzxs06pfgt0 142337 142336 2022-08-11T23:58:15Z Omotecho 6807 /* Multilingual? (translation) */ Reply wikitext text/x-wiki == 90 days for partners? == "deleted, de-identified, or aggregated within 90 days" --> does this apply to data gathered by the platform as well? What is their retention policy? They will have the most identifiable data about participants and their interactions. [[user:sj|SJ]] [[user talk:sj|+]] 16:13, 25 July 2022 (UTC) : Hey [[user:sj|SJ]], the privacy terms of PheedLoop state that account information will be deleted when it is no longer necessary / upon request. Our Legal Department works with all partners to harmonize our data retention guidelines with theirs, so we will be initiating that request process to have the data deleted by 90 days. You can also request to delete your data and terminate your account with PheedLoop directly after Wikimania is over, using the contact information provided in their [https://pheedloop.com/more/privacy Privacy Policy]. --[[User:ELappen (WMF)|ELappen (WMF)]] ([[User talk:ELappen (WMF)|talk]]) 01:08, 26 July 2022 (UTC) :: Thank you kindly, Elana. I am not worried about my own data, but want people's expectations of privacy to match reality. As the number of third parties grows, it might be worth updating the privacy-policy docs. A standing practice to file requests to partners to delete the data of wikimedians by 90d seems like a big deal to me. [[Privacy_policy/Supplement|PP supplement]]: only lists Zendesk. [[user:sj|SJ]] [[user talk:sj|+]] 14:59, 26 July 2022 (UTC) == Multilingual? (translation) == why don't we push this page for translation? Non-native English speakers would benefit a lot IMHO. Cheers, <!-- -->-- [[User:Omotecho|Omotecho]] ([[User talk:Omotecho|talk]]) 03:21, 7 August 2022 (UTC) :@[[User:Omotecho|Omotecho]] -- Hi, I can answer this question! This page was created using a wiki template, so the content is mostly transcluded rather than translatable directly from this page. The template itself ''is'' being pushed for translation, but since it is still pretty new we were sadly not able to get this year's priority Wikimania languages uploaded in time for this statement. [[User:MMoss (WMF)|MMoss (WMF)]] ([[User talk:MMoss (WMF)|talk]]) 17:26, 11 August 2022 (UTC) ::Too sad when you see the multilingual audiences coming together since the opening session, but understood... Please keep it on your shopping list anyway. Cheers, [[User:Omotecho|Omotecho]] ([[User talk:Omotecho|talk]]) 23:58, 11 August 2022 (UTC) == Terms & Conditions, PheedLoop (link bug) == @[[User:ELappen_(WMF)|Elana]] Hello, it is said at Wikimania_2022_Registration_Privacy_Statement: <quote>The event will take place on PheedLoop; please read their [https://pheedloop.com/more/privacy Privacy Policy] and [https://pheedloop.com/more/terms Terms of Service]. We put requirements in place to help ensure that these service providers protect and handle personal information with care.<unquote> However, on PheedLoop, I clicked on the Terms&Condiitons link, which falls back to WMF page (Wikimania_2022_Registration_Privacy_Statement), not theirs. Any bug? -- [[User:Omotecho|Omotecho]] ([[User talk:Omotecho|talk]]) 03:29, 7 August 2022 (UTC) :Hi @[[User:Omotecho|Omotecho]], can you link us to the PheedLoop Terms & Conditions link which falls back to our privacy statement? Can't seem to find this mention. Both our privacy statement and the [https://pheedloop.com/more/privacy PheedLoop Privacy Policy] and [https://pheedloop.com/more/terms Terms of Service] are relevant. We can investigate why a PheedLoop "Terms & Conditions" link is linking back to us if you can help us track down this instance. --[[User:ELappen (WMF)|ELappen (WMF)]] ([[User talk:ELappen (WMF)|talk]]) 00:17, 9 August 2022 (UTC) ::Hello, I encountered the issue on iPhone6Plus, but can't recreate it anymore. ::I felt it's unconvenient that on [https://pheedloop.com/register/wikimania2022/attendee/? Attendee's page], links don't lead me to anywhere as: ::*Site Map | خريطة الموقع | 網站地圖 | Plan du site | Карта сайта | Mapa del sitio ::*Connect | الاتصال | 連結 | Connecter | Подключиться | Conectarse ::*Information | معلومات | 資訊 | Informations | Информация | Información. ::A side note. ::Now i have learnt that PheedLoop's "Terms of Use" and "Privacy Policy" are accessed on the Main Page, scrolling way down to the bottom of that page. ::* The mobile Main Page has a three bar menu button at the upper right of the screen, but aside from promotion, no [search] window: ::* as a Wikimedian, I use search window so often whenever to find something. (How lucky we are, I know now.) ::FYI, on mobile PheedLoop APP, Links are live for: ::* <nowiki>[https://</nowiki>pheedloop.com/wikimania2022/site/register/ Register | تسجيل | 登記 | S'inscrire | Зарегистрироваться | Registarse] ::* <nowiki>[[</nowiki>wmania:Wikimania|Website | موقع الكتروني | 網頁 | Site web | Веб-сайт | Sitio web]] ::* Twitter ::* Facebook ::* Instagram ::* @wikimania&hashtags=Wikimania2022 Wikimania2022 ::* wikimania@wikimedia.org ::Thank you very much supporting the community members, with such a swift response. Great to feel I am learning. Cheers, -- [[User:Omotecho|Omotecho]] ([[User talk:Omotecho|talk]]) 04:22, 9 August 2022 (UTC) s25elbso7rho9ki4hk22m39dkh10cov